SpiderChat

TeleFinder Chat from Tuesday, December 15, 1998 11 AM PST.

In attendance:

From Spider Island: Rusty Tucker

Sysops: Donald McHose, Bob Nunn, Jim Leary, Mikael Fredriksson

Rusty Tucker: hola!
Rusty Tucker: I'm on the PC, so I won't have a log
Donald McHose: Howdy!
Rusty Tucker: Guess that should be my next project :)
Bob Nunn: I have mine up if I don't crash.
Rusty Tucker: actually, I just put 851 in, so I should test out my script
Rusty Tucker: BRB
Donald McHose: Ahh..what's a 851?
Rusty Tucker: hola!
Rusty Tucker: there we go
Bob Nunn: System OS8.5.1
Donald McHose: Grin ;-)
Rusty Tucker: 851 is supposed to fix the AppleScript bug, so lets see! :)
Rusty Tucker: The next server release ( today ? ) will add a new wrinkle to the #dir_list spml command.
Donald McHose: Bob how are your iMacs doing now?
Bob Nunn: ok
Donald McHose: Like what RT?
Rusty Tucker: just a sec
Rusty Tucker: here we go...
Rusty Tucker: 


Rusty Tucker: This is useful when using the #dir_list command in a homepage
Rusty Tucker: you can excluded homepage from the listing, or the templates folder
Donald McHose: ok. Nice
Rusty Tucker: 
Rusty Tucker: or all gifs
Rusty Tucker: 
Rusty Tucker: as it is now, certain exclusions are hard coded
Rusty Tucker: all files that start with "." or "•"
Rusty Tucker: I will probably take that out in favor of the SPML based exclusions
Rusty Tucker: Any comments on the new address book features?
Bob Nunn: Took me a while to figure out that it actually worked. My book is large and the entry of course goes to the bottom initially. Like it though.
Donald McHose: Not right now , but will probably have some questions after the weekend.
Bob Nunn: I haven't had any reports back yet on the new TFUBeta for Windoze. My main tester is trying to recover their drive again ;-)
Bob Nunn: I guess you just should buy a new machine once a year......???
Donald McHose: RT: What did ya think of the TF symbol. I'll be loading the new TFu for Win Beta in the am.
Rusty Tucker: it will resort them when you reopen the address book
Donald McHose: Hell they replace our IBM's every two years !
Bob Nunn: Yup figured it. Knew that actually. I just didn't think and put the same entry in about 10 times thinking it wasn't working. Typical user brained.
Bob Nunn: BRB
Rusty Tucker: yep, I should have that resort automatically when new entries are added
Bob Nunn: If possible. Not a biggy but some would have the same trouble I had I would think.
Bob Nunn: Sometime in the next few I will be demoing the latest TF Mac version for the user group again. Will get to show off many of the new features. Nice being able to let folks see these things first hand.
Donald McHose: is there documentation ( on the new address book functions)in the down load? + Did you hear from Jon and company if it was a problem with the mail PI?
Rusty Tucker: anyone gonna be at Macworld?
Bob Nunn: Wish I had the time and the money. Would love to go.
Donald McHose: Not till they host it in Charlotte NC ;-)
Donald McHose: On a Sat afternoon
Rusty Tucker: Welcome to the chat mikael!
mikael fredriksson: Hi!
Donald McHose: Are you going Rusty?
Rusty Tucker: I think I will, no booth
Donald McHose: Well give NET PROF. mag. a calling card !
Bob Nunn: Just hanging ain't bad. You get to enjoy the show more. Ever though about sharing a booth or grabbing a corner in someone's?
Rusty Tucker: Han Haakman and Steve Messimeer have said they want to have a get together there
Rusty Tucker: Welcome to the chat Jim!
Donald McHose: Would love to join ya'll..oh well.
Jim Leary: RT are you going to display TF at MacWorld on the West Coast?
Rusty Tucker: no $ for that :(
Jim Leary: sorry to hear that...thought you might get to do it out there
Rusty Tucker: But I'm planning to go there for a couple days
Jim Leary: one week at that could make a difference
Bob Nunn: Perhaps you could get your jacket emblazoned with ask me about the best Mac BBS/Web Server.
Jim Leary: I think a booth would have been a bit more effective
Rusty Tucker: c-ya mikael fredriksson
Rusty Tucker: Will you be out for expo Jim?
Donald McHose: Did ANY ONE ever get a comparison done on 5.7.1...to web * or first class ( Mac)?
Rusty Tucker: we're planning a sysop get-together if you'll be there and are interested
Jim Leary: no....I went to the NY version...wasn't too impressed...certainly not enough to invest in a trip to the other side of the country for pretty much the same thing
Rusty Tucker: Welcome to the chat mikael!
Jim Leary: no $ for that :)
Rusty Tucker: Anyone got a email address for Daryl Hansen ( Maui Mail )?
Rusty Tucker: looks like they've given up on HDS Web Mail..
Donald McHose: BRB
Rusty Tucker: c-ya Donald McHose
Rusty Tucker: I tried emailing him about it, and the message bounced back
Bob Nunn: Haven't heard from him in a while.
Rusty Tucker: Mikael, are you coming to expo?
mikael fredriksson: Ill will try to get to the expo in Boston
mikael fredriksson: sorry no SF for me...
Rusty Tucker: got it
Rusty Tucker: c-ya mikael fredriksson
Rusty Tucker: so far so good with 851 and AppleScript
Bob Nunn: Sure like visiting SF.. Cost is pretty prohibitive from this side of the Rockies. Took a day and drove the Pacific Coast highway. Won't soon forget it. Restaurants aren't too shabby either.
Rusty Tucker: It would have crashed by now using 8.5.0
Rusty Tucker: Welcome to the chat Donald!
Bob Nunn: I am anxious to see if the FileMaker prob. got taken care of as well.
Rusty Tucker: was there something in the read me about that?
Bob Nunn: I was looking for it of course. Something about asynchronous writes fixed?
Bob Nunn: Seems FM would cause an unrecoverable error under certain circumstance. Mostly how I operated evidently.
Rusty Tucker: Yes, I see that now. Could be. That might also affect TeleFinder
Rusty Tucker: since TeleFinder does asynch writes too
Bob Nunn: I have had less trouble with my newsgroups processing. Perhaps it helped since I would occasionally have trouble.
Rusty Tucker: I thought your newsgroup restarts was PowerKey timing out?
Bob Nunn: Not really sure. Need to watch it more. I have been having them pull in the wee hours instead of my heavy traffic evenings as of late. Suspect that though.
Rusty Tucker: Welcome to the chat mikael!
Rusty Tucker: yes, esp. if there is not a Macsbug log
Bob Nunn: Lollipop used to stay up top. Something changed that as well. 8.5.1?
Bob Nunn: The only things I have changed at all are the server and 8.5.1 lately.
Rusty Tucker: ? is lollipop the news fetcher?
Rusty Tucker: c-ya Jim Leary
Bob Nunn: Yes Jim Smiths Lollipop. Goes out and pulls. Have it set up to pull three smaller sets rather than one large at once.
Donald McHose: Bob: Do you use VM? on the server?I have been watching a couple of list serve threads on the subject.
Bob Nunn: Yes just one over. Have it on both Headgap and Wang's that way.
Rusty Tucker: what happened to the POP3 gate?
Donald McHose: Sounds like the best set up so far. Just the bare min.
Bob Nunn: I started running a smaller cache than 8.5 recommends as well. Don't know what a POP3 gate is.
Donald McHose: Talking about Vicoms?RT
Bob Nunn: Finder response "feels" snappier with the smaller cache. Just the opposite of what I would think. Daniel suggested it.
Rusty Tucker: he was doing a gateway to fetch mail from a POP3 account for Mail Server
Bob Nunn: I think he has that as well. I think he calls it popsicle.
Bob Nunn: Don't have a use for it. Have a decent ISP.
Donald McHose: If this was for Jim S , I don't think he had/has a dedicated I-net link.
Bob Nunn: Might be useful for someone trying to run a system via a cable modem account. I can't remember who was needing that.
Rusty Tucker: c-ya mikael fredriksson
Donald McHose: Alot of people soon I would expect will be looking at Cable.
Rusty Tucker: anything else before we close up?
Bob Nunn: Fast and cheap. What about taking out the Thu chat notice?
Rusty Tucker: I guess Dan was coming by, I missed a lot because of Soccer.
Rusty Tucker: but that's done now
Bob Nunn: Yep I would show up as well as Donald but not a large group. perhaps start readvertising it then?
Donald McHose: yeah Dan was asking . So Thursday is still an option?
Bob Nunn: Gotta run. Nice being able to edit Photoshop files while chatting on my little iMac. See ya Thurs. then..